Bill Gates has good feelings about artificial intelligence

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Bill Gates has spent billions to fund technologies he believes will shape the future, from combat climate change Down eradication of disease.

The interview has been lightly edited for length and clarity..

In the first episode, you ask ChatGPT to recommend an exercise that you can do in your office. Do you employ ChatGPT in your daily life, and if so, how?

Well, honestly, not for practice purposes, although that was a good example where it gave a pretty good answer.

“It’s hard to overstate the scale of the investment Microsoft and other companies are making in this space.”

You know, I often learn about topics and ChatGPT is a great way to get clarification on specific questions. I often write things down and it’s a huge support with writing. I would say the feature I employ the most is the meeting summary, which is integrated with [Microsoft] Teams, which I employ a lot. The ability to interact and not only get a summary but also ask questions about the meeting is pretty fantastic.

Do you think Microsoft should expand its partnership with OpenAI or invest more in its own technology?

I’m an advisor to Microsoft. It strengthens the OpenAI relationship, it’s doing a lot of its own stuff. I mean, the amount of investment from Microsoft and others in this area, it’s challenging to overstate.

Well, the short-term problems are more positive uses for it in areas like health and education. Even in the United States we have shortages. The idea of ​​a personal tutor who in Newark see Khanmigo [Khan Academy’s AI tool]which is based on ChatGPT. Seeing how great it is to support teachers do their job, to support students who are behind or ahead of us stay engaged. So over the next decade we will experience increased productivity in many areas, which is overwhelmingly good news.

As it becomes more powerful, and you know, when bad people employ it, there will be problems. But overall, I think it’s a beneficial thing and we just have to shape it in the right way.

Disinformation is something that researchers are also concerned on AI supercharging. Have you ever wondered how you would feel if the generative AI tools Microsoft was working on had a significant impact on disinformation, on things like climate change and global health?

I think AI, in general, is super beneficial in climate work. People can type misinformation into a word processor. They don’t need AI to, you know, type crazy stuff. So I’m not sure that, other than creating deepfakes, AI really changes the balance there. In fact, I would say that when people talk about reducing misinformation, the role of AI can be positive in terms of looking at what’s going on in a super-efficient way.

AI Training uses a lot of energyHow can this be reconciled with the ambitions to combat climate change, especially since Microsoft’s greenhouse gas emissions are rising?

Microsoft and other tech companies are very much involved in finding tidy energy sources, so they will be pioneering customers, even for things like geothermal, fission, or fusion, to support launch this green energy generation. The actual growth from AI data centers, even at the extreme end, would be far below 10 percent.

So, the net benefit that we get from the support of AI in our scientific discoveries, okay, how to do it steel? How do you make meat? What will the weather be like? The benefits of AI outweigh the fact that it’s just another electrical burden, but not as much as electric cars or electric heat pumps or switching the industrial economy to use electricity instead of the direct employ of hydrocarbons.

You have funded technologies that some activists call “false solutions“to climate change because carbon capture does not remove fossil fuels or the other pollutants they cause. And nuclear power ignites the fight for uranium mining near indigenous communities. How do you deal with these concerns about climate technology?

I’m a gigantic believer that nuclear energy can support us solve the climate problem, which is very, very vital. There are projects that, in terms of safety, fuel employ, or waste management, I think minimize those problems.

It could become — although it’s not today — very affordable electricity, using fission or fusion. So we have to make sure that we’re picky about how we mine, how we store waste. But we need these technologies.

You will need weather-independent sources that can be located near where there is electricity demand to complement the radical expansion of renewable energy sources.

Fission, we can do it cheaply. TerraPower is a company that’s trying to show that we can do a much safer, but much cheaper form of fission. [Editor’s note: Gates is founder and chairman of the Board of TerraPower.] And people are actually skeptical because it’s never been done. But they’ll see us building this plant, and if so, that could contribute.

What about concerns about carbon capture? Fossil fuels not only emit carbon dioxide, but also other pollutants. How do you deal with these concerns about environmental justice as well?

Well, coal, definitely, it’s great that it’s been replaced by natural gas in many countries. Because in terms of local pollution, natural gas burns very cleanly. And although it produces CO2 per unit of energy, it produces less. In time, we’ll have to get rid of even natural gas, but it doesn’t have those local pollutants. [Editor’s note: burning natural gas creates nitrogen dioxide, a smog-forming pollutant and respiratory irritant.]

Here in the US people are not building recent coal plants — They are changingand so the health benefits of getting rid of these local particles is another reason to accelerate these changes. This is true all over the world, although they are not as blessed with cheap natural gas as we are, so things like fission and fusion are going to play an important complementary role to renewables in large parts of the world.

I know that many advocates also have concerns about natural gas when it comes to methane leaks from gas infrastructure and even leaks from gas appliances at home and what it means for indoor air quality.

The merger is exhilarating. The experts I’ve talked to who are also hopeful don’t think we’ll see it in the time frame required by the Paris Agreement. What makes you so positive about the readiness of the merger in time?

I have stakes in five merger companies that, while they have a long-term horizon, I think the role of mergers in the long term is going to be very, very vital.

Given the challenge of scaling existing and recent technologies, we will certainly miss A goal of 1.5 degrees, and we will probably not achieve the goal of two degrees. So we’re going to have to be very innovative about adaptation, making sure that the health, nutrition and well-being of people, even in poor countries close to the equator, doesn’t get worse.

Despite the fact that we will have climate challenges over time, I don’t think we will have a climate catastrophe because we will be able to implement these recent technologies. But, you know, we will not avoid two degrees of warming, so we will have to weave some adaptation into it.

Is there anything you wish you had done differently while leading Microsoft?

Well, I’ve been learning all the time I’ve been running Microsoft. And overall, I feel great about the company and the work that’s been done. I feel very fortunate that my successors have continued to work, so it’s still a great company. A lot of the learning that I’m getting about AI to help in areas like global health and education is from being involved in Microsoft and talking to the key people there. So, you know, I really appreciate the fact that Satya is giving me that opportunity.

There’s a lot of focus on antitrust these days, including the breakup of tech giants. What would the tech landscape look like if Microsoft had actually been broken up in the early 21st century?

These antitrust lawsuits, I don’t know what’s going to come of them. When companies are that successful, they should assume that’s going to happen. And of course, they see what Microsoft has done right and what it hasn’t done right in its journey through these challenges.

It’s challenging to speculate on that. I mean, I think no matter what part of the company I joined, it would have thrived.

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