Lauren Goode: I am Lauren Goode, I am a senior correspondent Wired.
Will Knight: And I’m Knight, an elderly writer in Wired.
Michael Heat: I want to start us, asking if any of you have recently had agency experience in your life?
Lauren Goode: I recently had experience, do you remember Google Duplex?
Michael Heat: Vivid.
Lauren Goode: Ok It was an early version of this. Appeared around 2018; We wrote about it at that time in Wired. But recently I tried to make a dinner reservation in the place where you and I went to your birthday. Vegan sushi. This is already the most podcast San Francisco in history. We are talking about vegan sushi and how I unknowingly sent AI agent to try to make a reservation for me.
Michael Heat: How was it unconsciously?
Lauren Goode: Because I just did a very human thing in which I went to the website and entered “I would like to book for this number of people at that time.” Without knowledge, he managed him through the Google assistant. Then he said: “We are trying a restaurant on your behalf”
Michael Heat: Oh.
Lauren Goode: And he still tried and then would send me a notification. Then he still tried and would send me a notification. He worked behind the scenes to try to make a reservation. He did not complete the reservation. Does it matter?
Michael Heat: Yes, it fully matters.
Lauren Goode: Is this agent AI? He worked on my behalf.
Michael Heat: Yes.
Lauren Goode: Will, what about you?
Will Knight: I played with AI coding tools and above all the Claude code, which in my opinion is a good example of an agent. Because he does it all these amusing things, such as not only writes the code, but edit files, moves them. Uses your terminal. Removes things if you are unlucky. This is an agent thing I played with.
Lauren Goode: You say climate coding.
Will Knight: I have it. It was fascinating. VIBE coding is the term that AI, a very well -known researcher, Andrej Karpathy, has basically developed conjurement of the entire program, ready software, simply by monitoring the model. These models have always been automatically complete code, but last year they became so good in coding that they can create entire projects covering many files and many folders and everything. I actually started doing it with my child because I thought: “How do you teach a child to understand artificial intelligence?” And you have always thought that coding is a good idea. He loves games, so I thought: “Let’s code some games.”
Michael Heat: Well, my experience is much less technical, because recently I had to change the aircraft reservation through the Southwest application.