Zoë Schiffer: Booktok completely immersed me in the world of Romantasa. Now I am not able to read normal literature. Thank you.
Lauren Goode: I assume that Romantasy is an affair and fantasy?
Zoë Schiffer: Oh, yes, it is. Dragons. There are fairies, there are dragons. I am not proud of it, but I don’t think I’m proud of it either.
Lauren Goode: Wild.
Michael Heat: Lauren, you have to spend more time on the tiktok.
Lauren Goode: I know. Zoe, this is the whole page with you, which I was not aware of as my podcast Cohost. Respect.
Zoë Schiffer: Yes, I generally don’t lead with it, I will be real.
Michael Heat: Lauren, what is your favorite movie?
Lauren Goode: A friend sent me moths.
Moth Girl [Archival audio]: Two years ago I found this gigantic moth sitting in my drive.
Lauren Goode: Her coping with Tiktok to Talalovesouart. But she is a girl of moths.
Moth Girl [Archival audio]: … Hell frightened with my wings.
Lauren Goode: Actually, because Tiktok was to be banned and my friend was going crazy. She thought: “Such beautiful creators will not be able to reach the audience.”
Moth Girl [Archival audio]: But I had no idea what I was going to get into it.
Lauren Goode: I got a little bit. There was onions in the room. It was really lovely. What about you, Mike?
Michael Heat: My favorite personality Tikktok is Smac, Smac.
Sarah McCreanor [Archival audio]: I don’t know why you followed me, it was probably a dance or anything else.
Michael Heat: Sarah McCreanor, she is an Australian interpretative dancer, comedian and original person. She is also known as a hydraulic girl because she took a viral hydraulic press of crushing films and interpretatively dancing them-
Zoë Schiffer: Oh my God.
Michael Heat: With amazing costumes.
Lauren Goode: Wow.
Michael Heat: She is great.
Zoë Schiffer: To be straightforward, creativity on Tiktok is quite unparalleled.
Lauren Goode: It really is.
Michael Heat: It is a pity that everything goes away.
Zoë Schiffer: Aw.
Michael Heat: This is Wired Uncanny ValleyProgram about people, power and impact of the Silicon Valley. I am Michael Calore, director of consumer technology and culture here in Wired.
Lauren Goode: I am Lauren Goode, I am a senior writer in Wired.
Zoë Schiffer: I am Zoe Schiffer, Wired business and industry director.
Michael Heat: Today we are talking about Tiktoku. What makes this application so unique and so sensitive? We all have our favorite Tiktok personalities, our favorite movies and our favorite Understandings. But what is a really tiktok? Where does it come from? When was the first time we were obsessed with this? And why are we obsessed?
Zoë Schiffer: A compact answer is Tiktok is a Chinese social application, which has about 170 million lively users in the United States. And in particular a lot of teenage people. It really has a choke on generation with specifically.