ON This episode VergecastWe are talking about all these angles and a few others, because Deepseek is the history of this moment at so many levels. Nilay and David discuss whether companies such as Opeli and Anthropic should be nervous, why reasoning models are such a great matter and whether all this additional training and promotion actually make up many. (Nilay has a long comparison with Bluetooth in case he helps you guess where we land.)
Then we cross our e-mail (vergectast@theverge.com) and Vergecast hotline (866-wverge11) and talk about some answers to the question from last week about how people operate artificial intelligence. Thank you very much to everyone who wrote and called! There are so many intriguing, sophisticated, completely human ways in which we all interact with Chatgpt, Gemini, Claude and the rest (but to be forthright, mainly chatgpt) and we learned a lot from your examples. They also made us feel a lot of feelings.
If you want to learn more about everything we discuss in this episode, here are some links to start, first in Deepseek and AI:
And in the lightning round: